Jesse Michels, Joe Rogan. podscripts.co. August 25, 2026.
Michels recounts interviews, personal sightings and stories from named and unnamed contacts. Reported missile encounters, fragment handling, Brazilian medical accounts and an abandoned proposal are retained with corrections, hearsay chains and memory limitations.
James Fox, Joe Rogan. podscripts.co. April 26, 2023.
Fox recounts interviews and named or anonymous contacts concerning military incidents, Varginha and alleged footage. The discussion preserves off-camera limitations, translation, custody chains and corrections about what witnesses actually saw.
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