Hal Puthoff, John L. Petersen. ufojoe.net. March 31, 2020.
Puthoff reports a subcontractor approach, congressional and classified-level briefings, foreign meetings and promised materials. His technical account explicitly retains nonexistent sample custody, questionable provenance, possible hoax or slag, experiments not yet done and engineering beyond present capabilities. The main lecture complements the previously read Q&A; these accounts do not authenticate recovered craft or material delivery.
Avi Loeb. avi-loeb.medium.com. September 20, 2026.
Loeb reports two ODNI visits, anomaly questions from unnamed staff and conversations with Aaron Lucas about disclosure assurances. He also recounts inviting Robin Hanson to his council and an unsuccessful UN proposal. These are attributed contact accounts; they do not establish classified access, secret programmes or recovered-object custody.
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